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Teachers Talk
Soon after September 11, ESOL teachers began discussing their classroom experiences on the TESOL
Adult Interest Section listserv. With permission from the writers, Field Notes is offering excerpts
from this discussion.
From: Elsa Auerbach, UMass/Boston
elsa.auerbach@umb.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001
I had two undergraduate classes yesterday, each of which turned out completely differently from
each other and from what I expected/planned.... I need to start by saying that in both classes, there
was absolute unanimity in our horror and sadness about the events of Sept. 11th. In both classes,
people from all points of view were overwhelmed by the enormity and their shock, outrage,
compassion, grief came out through the discussion....
The second class is for first year students; most are ESL students and all but one are women.
I started by asking students whether they wanted to talk about the events of the week (rather than just
digging in). Students had written poems about themselves and I had brought a poem by a Palestinian
woman about how to be Palestinian in times like these. Immediately one student said she resented the way
teachers were trying to connect the discussion to course material and said we should just talk about it
without trying to work it into the curriculum. So I told them that I had just done that very thing in my
previous class. One very outspoken bicultural Latina-North American student said she did NOT want
to talk about it because she had almost gotten into a fist fight in her previous class when she raised
her fears about racist attacks on Arabic-looking people and her perspective that the U.S. was sowing
what it had reaped-she spoke about the experiences of U.S. involvement in Latin America. From
here, the discussion took its own course with a young very quiet woman from El Salvador talking
about the fear she is experiencing and her sense of loss: she came here because she thought she would
be safe, and now feels there is nowhere left to be safe. She cried and several other women also began
crying and spoke of similar feelings. There was quite a back-and-forth between women from Eritrea
and Haiti talking about what the U.S. had done in their countries and women from Vietnam who saw
this as the land of freedom.
All the while, the Muslim women said nothing. One is 'invisibly' Muslim (blond, from Turkey)
and the other who had been wearing a head scarf in earlier classes, came to class without the covering.
At a few points, I asked them and others if they wanted to say anything. They said no. A self-identified
"American Jewish" woman voiced her concern about the government using this as a way
toward more violence. At the end, a young "American" woman thanked the group, saying she had
never had a chance to hear how people who aren't American are thinking about these events. The
`outspoken' woman said she was glad we had discussed it because it was a different experience from
her previous one. After class, I asked the Muslim woman if she had left off the head covering because
of the events of the week. She said yes. I asked her why she hadn't participated in class to share what
she is experiencing and, interestingly, she said she had wanted to, but her parents told her not to talk
about this in any way.
What do I see in this? I think there are a few points that stand out for me:
- NOT jumping into the conversation, but rather asking people whether they would like to talk
about these events was useful. It ended up leading into a discussion, but I don't think people thought
I was forcing them to talk about it. (In fact one student said this -- that in another class, the teacher
didn't give them a choice.)
- Abandoning my own plan for how to get into the discussion was important -- that is, NOT
orchestrating the discussion. I told them how I was thinking about this and what I had planned,
sharing my thinking, and sharing my own uncertainties.
- Trusting that they could bring a full range of perspectives to the discussion, that I didn't need
to assume I was the only one who had a critical analysis was important.
- Not being "goal-oriented" -- that is, not trying to work the discussion around to one
perspective or unanimity or 'good feeling' was important; being comfortable with not resolving or
clarifying things. I would be interested in whatever others see in what I've described and in hearing
about how they've proceeded.
From: Abigail Tom, Durham Technical Community College, Durham, NC
abtom@mindspring.com
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001
I am appalled by Tommy's story about the teacher who wouldn't discuss the events with his/her students. I
feel very strongly that when this and other terrible events occur, we must give our students an opportunity
to talk about them. A few years ago there was a shooting near where our classes meet; another time there
was a suicide at a middle school which the children of some of my students attended. All of these events
are extremely distressing to our students, as they are to us. To imply that they aren't is in some way to deny
the humanity of our students. I teach high beginners. On Wednesday I asked them to tell what happened.
As they did so, I wrote on the board what they had said. In this way, the events were written in English
which was comprehensible to them. They said this helped them later understand the language of the TV
reports. In my intermediate conversation class, I asked them before class to write any comments or
questions they had about the events. They wrote various things. Then I asked if they wanted to say more.
Some did. I left a lot of "wait time" to be sure that everyone who wanted to could talk, but didn't force
anyone. I feel that both of these strategies give students a chance to talk about what happened and to share
their thoughts about it. To do less is a great disservice to our students.
From: Nancy Quinn, City Colleges of Chicago
trying4@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001
I teach low-beginning, with a four-hour class that started at 12:30 on Tuesday. Walking into the
classroom, I still didn't know what I was going to do. We have people from every part of the world in
every class, and I was especially concerned that the Muslim students feel comfortable, but I really was
pretty confident that part would be okay, based on past experiences during the Gulf War, etc. I just
didn't know how to approach it, since we couldn't have a "discussion." I ended up going over the facts
of what happened and the related vocabulary with the class, and asked them to tell me if there were
words they had heard on TV, but didn't understand. I let them know that I knew that many of them
had had terrible things happen in their countries, too. (One Somali student has no hands -- only a
kind of hook). I also let them know that I know there are reasons why some people hate our country.
We spent quite a bit of time on it, and then it seemed okay to move on to "regular class."
In the following days (we meet four days, four hours each day) we did a quick update, and then
moved on. It seems to be an okay approach for this group. We'll see how things develop.
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